"Prior to that game, we agreed to play a UK game with MJD anyway...

On top of that, I can understand Varsity if he feels as if he has a better chance vs. 3 MW players on the UK server, opposed to 3 UK players on the UK server. (It very well could have been 2 UK players and 1 MW player, but I saw that you and Zorro were going to play, so... same argument.)"

We offered to play varsity spider mustard_seed with me zorro fuel on the mw server. We both needed our requirement on NA whereas Shield did not. I think those lineups are a lot more fair than varsity spider m_s vs Tigger Recoil Dan. Unless your vastly overrating me fuel and zorro on MW I think the prior game seems alot more fair than the latter.

Also, to reply to Dan's message about varsity saying he'd play us after he played shield. The reason I said "just leave it" was because I was 99% sure that they wouldn't play us on either server after they played you. Weirdly enough, they didn't!

It's been happening far too much in this league and its a shame as the league has a good base to run off of. It all started on the first day anyway when the league was made with 5 MW gm's to 3 UK gm's. Even though MnM stats show that UK is 4 TIMES more active than MW. Then it was announced that Adroit and Prowler would be made GM's. Two guys who have probably played 5 games in the last year. Neither knew much about the skill of todays players probably on both servers but mainly on UK.

I don't see UBO being run again anytime soon and I fully expect someone to exploit the leagues failures and build a similar but much more efficient league in the near future. Hopefully one that is more fair to both servers and doesn't change rules throughout the season.

im done with that league. i probably could just let these things go, if maria didnt drain all the fun from me.

one question, why did we encounter milion bugs, after 2 seasons of this league?

I locked the other thread to avoid further disputes, not so you could start new ones. I will however re-address your points for closure.


I've already addressed this point before. Firstly, the UK GM pool was very limited and secondly, the number of GMs picked reflect the number of players from that server that play in the league.

There were 30 GM applicants and of those there were 5 UK GM applicants that played in the season - 3 as GMs and 2 as players, the others weren't seen as good enough to even get drafted, let alone be a GM. You were the 4th applicant and 69 was the 5th. All other GM applicants were from MW (20+) and got drafted, minus 3 players.

Activity of the server cannot be determined based on volume of MnM games, that shows nothing other than more MnM games being played when there was no competition in UB. The current MW and UK participants in the league almost exactly reflect their representation from GMs. There are currently 57 MW players and 33 UK players that were drafted in the league. MW players make up 63% of the player pool, which is almost exactly equal in representation from GMs, as 5/8 GMs is 62.5%.

You also mentioned that Prowler and Adroit played "probably" 5 games in the last year. You're close. In reality (e.g. not made up stats) they are actually the two most active GMs of all that were selected: http://www.uniballhq.com/stats/?u=&y=4& ... lc=10&lo=0

Based on activity for 2009:
#2 Adroit 12d20h4m18s
#33 Prowler 7d5h33m54s

Your argument that they didn't know how to pick teams also doesn't stand up, as Adroit's UK team has the 3rd highest win% on UK, while Prowler simply doesn't have a strong UK team, although he has two good players.


The reason why UBO won't likely be run again anytime soon is because of people like you who complain about pretty much everything and make it tiring to run. If you don't like the league you're welcome not to play, i'm sure this would be a win win solution for everyone involved.