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 Post subject: Through passes!
PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 12:37 pm 
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Ever noticed those awesome passes some ball carriers are able to pull every now and then that will result in a goal? Do you want them to happen more often in your team? Then read this! If you don't know this yet, your team will score more one or two goals per game!



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Yeah well, there's nothing much I can say about how to do the pass.. A good ball carrier will need to have an eye open for every possible passes! Obviously there is some skill involved with the pass and timing must be correct but you'll get that naturally!
The hardest thing to get is the ability to see other players getting open.. I'd say the best way to get good at it is by playing a lot of mini! but I guess you'll still get it after some months of hock..
Some tips:
Always have a plan B! ~ Yeah, if you see they are getting open, there's a huge chance your defender saw it too, and will block your pass! be ready to control the ball and/or pass to your other teammate! I've seen newer players noticing an opening, and on the moment they were going to pass, the defender got in the way.. He wasn't expecting the passline to close, and he lost the ball..
Don't tell the defenders what you're going to do! ~ don't move in the direction you want to pass! move in the direction you want them to think you wanna pass! and then pass sideways!
Don't pass the ball as soon as you can! ~ This seems to go against what top players say, but its not! If you see a pass, hold your ball two more seconds so your teammate have time to start moving! but don't get me wrong.. if there's no ZOMGAWESOME1 pass, pass it right away..



Getting open!
Now, the important part of through passes is getting open.. Sounds easy but there are times that the ball carrier had the pass line, but you simply didn't see it or didn't bother running for it..
The player who will recieve the pass must start moving before the pass is made! like in soccer for example!(but hey, now you don't have to worry about offsides!)
If you boost past your defender/are able to block him so you'll be in the middle zone alone, even the less skilled ball carrier will see that pass!

With this said, there's not much more I can do other than show you some game situations and how you should get open behind your defender:


In a normal attack sometimes we come to this:
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This first one is really basic and may seem stupid that someone would move the wrong way, but in game, it will be much faster and some newer players will think "damn, the game is on the other side of the map! ON MY WAAAY!!!!!1" and will fail to see there's a goal if they'd just move to their goal!
Believe it or not, this situation will come up atleast once per game (well, in most games..) and that'd be an extra goal to your team if you went to the right place!


The ball carrier went to the middle:
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Some of you will follow him even if you could block your defender! don't do this! it's normal to get behind your defender sometimes, take advantage of that! block him and you'll have a 2v3 situation that will most likely result in a goal!
(remember.. it's not wrong to go after the ball carrier in SOME situations, but if you can block your defender like this, do so!)


The ball carrier wants to pass to the other side!
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If you can trick your defender, it will be a goal! if he's facing left and you think the ball carrier will be able to pass it, boost in their backs! the worst that can happen is your ball carrier will need to control the ball for 2 seconds..
Don't try this always! you will need to judge if it's a good time.. if a defender (yours or the one who's defending the ball carrier) is expecting it, it won't work!


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and so on...

There are tons of situations! but you get the idea..
Remember, if your defender is completly closing your passline, you can ALWAYS go behind him and block him in a wall or square.. That's the beauty of hock..


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 7:34 pm 
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they work 1/10


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good post


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:31 pm 
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play v often with same teammates. will make possible avg ppl beat a random team filled with v good ppl


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wrong zorro.. the reason why they don't work as often in random games is because people don't know where do go and when to go..
It also depends on the defenders obviously, but you'll be able to pull 1 or 2 of those per game even if you're not trying them..
If those situations appear, they will most likely work! the problem is some people don't see them!

and (noob), yes, pretty sure flow could beat 3 very good players.. specially when very good players play together a lot on private games :P

and, thanks robert!


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:49 pm 
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by the way ive been adding links to your posts at http://ub.geekeffect.com


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:44 pm 
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Ooooh thank you robert! good job!


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dont know if you were being sarcastic, but yes, if we played more games together (we dont have that much time) we could beat better random ppl that play together maybe few games per month.

+ where do you see "a lot" of elite players priv games? maybe there is a other server where only elites can play?

all i see are uhls, 90% filled with noobs - average people. i see elites v elites almost never, and elive+x v elite+x v rarely.
i sometimes also see normal hocks wheres max like 1 from v good players and maybe a passworded ladder games once per month

dunno about midwest and west server.


we gonna have a lot of time (i think) next week so if you want we can prove that we can play good together (even if bk me or new sucks individualy)... of course if you dont leave game in progress.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 1:09 am 
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lol the only reason I left that game was because I had two awful mates..
and, maybe you should play more late at night.. last season there were atleast 50 games with elites ;\

and I know you can play well together.. but saying you can win against 3 v good players is stupid :x pretty sure you'd have trouble beating killer+sergio+lunarlite!


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You know what the problem is? Ball carrier throws the pass, it gets intercepted, nobody there for d, GOALLL, for the wrong team...

I am very reluctant to go ahead of the ball carrier when my teammate is also because I wont be able to get back on d and theres very few people a trust. That first picture...I wouldn't feel safe going towards goal if you were carrying the ball.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:05 am 
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you saw the teammates before game started. you left our games like 10 times already (in progress)

you say 50 games with elites? not on uk server then

of course we would have trouble beating them but its possible to win. you never saw sucky teams winning vs good teams in football?


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Phazed wrote:
You know what the problem is? Ball carrier throws the pass, it gets intercepted, nobody there for d, GOALLL, for the wrong team...

I am very reluctant to go ahead of the ball carrier when my teammate is also because I wont be able to get back on d and theres very few people a trust. That first picture...I wouldn't feel safe going towards goal if you were carrying the ball.


Yes, that's why you're such a good player..
I've been seeing a lot of players saying "I play safe!" because they heard baba saying "wow.. play safe" and ggot that thing stuck in their head..
Playing safe is different than playing dumb! going to your own goalie when they are attacking by the side isn't playing safe, is playing dumb.. Not getting open, isn't playing safe, is playing dumb.. Playing behind the ball carrier, specially if he's 10 times more skilled than you, isn't playing safe, is playing dumb! The ball carrier is the one who'll be preventing their breakaway if he happens to lose it, not you!

Also, you do realize that good players won't lose the ball 1v1 on hockey with space, don't you? the problem is you guys come so close that the passlines get fully covered and then your teammate has more chances to lose the ball!


and (noob), I've left your games about 3 times, and pretty sure someone replaced me right away in 2 of them! I know I had seen my teammates before the game, but I wasn't expecting them to be so dumb! I know it was my fault anyway, but I don't like to play a game when I'm not enjoying it..
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play v often with same teammates. will make possible avg ppl beat a random team filled with v good ppl

Oh, you said possible.. yes, pretty sure it's possible.. it was still possible if those avg players didn't play together.. obviously playing together will increase the chanc es of winning.. but they would still be way smaller!

and Yes, atleast 50 games on the uk server! surreal that season played almost 50 games if I recall correctly, and they were all(or atleas 90%) of them pro games!
if for you pro games = surr+baba+monk+lunarlite+bryant+zucky, then no, there wasn't even one like this.. When I'm saying games with good people I'm saying games where those avg players won't be allowed:
K, Bryant, LunarLite ~V~ pe, Purity, bandit
Bryant, Purity, IceWind ~V~ zorro, Babalybeck, K
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it's not my fault if you're not around past 11pm ;\ people still play at those hours you know?


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 5:11 pm 
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cmon dont act like you dont knwo what i mean

i mean playing a lot of games with SAME TEAMMATES everytime! not surreal + 2 random from elite group (killer lunarlite baba etcetc) but for example surreal + killer + coolio.

+ i also mean playing not 50 games in 25 days but at least 5-6 games per day. of course i check server browser after 11pm (12pm of my time. you think i dont have anything else to do?) but i barely see "a lot" of only elite games.

by the way. including yourself into examples of games with v good players only makes you look dumb and cocky, even if you are at their level (while i still think that you arent that good as killer pe or lunar is. you know why? because 2avg+killer vs3avg in uhl almost always wins.)

btw2. if you dont enjoy game, then please, dont ruin it for 5 other people in game and finish game or AT LEAST say something like "sry i have to go because my dad/mom/cat calls me"

PLEASE

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lol gotta love the forums


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if you dont have anything to add, please dont post.


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